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March 07, 2008

March Workhorse PC

Bleeding Edge's quarterly excursions into the components for what we call a workhorse PC are a constant reminder of the frequent opportunities the computer industry presents to us of buying older technology, sometimes for more than the newer, more powerful version.
As we wrote this column, for instance, the online catalogue of one of the most popular computer retail chains was offering the following Intel Core 2 Duo CPUs: the E6550 ($204), the E6750 ($228), and the E6850 ($325).
What they didn't mention was that in January, Intel had released a new generation of these mainstream CPUs with the model numbers E8200, E8400 and E8500.
The retailer had run out of stock of these so-called Wolfdale CPUs, which offer significant advantages over the advertised chips, and simply omitted them from the catalogue, which a lot of people use as a guide when assembling PCs. Who knows how many people bought them, thinking they had the latest release?

The E8000 series has a 6MB L2cache, which is 50 per cent more than the E6000 series, and a new instruction set called SSE (Streaming SIMD Extensions), to accelerate the creation and processing of digital content, including images, video and audio - an increasingly common task for the modern PC.
While the average user probably wouldn't have been able to detect the average 6 per cent performance improvement at each level, the improved power management and cooler operating temperatures might have saved on operating costs, and given him a quieter PC.
We're going to specify the slowest of the trio - the 2.66GHz E8200, which we sourced at Computer Parts Land for $239 – for this quarter's workhorse PC, although at $255, the 3GHz E8400 is very tempting indeed.
We're sticking with our recent preference for Gigabyte motherboards, with the P35DS3 getting our vote at $135, although the DS3P model offers some additional features which could be worth the additional $30.
We recommend a 2GB kit of RAM, and you can pick up a branded version from Kingston for $65.
Another area where technology advertisements skip important details is hard drives. Retailers tend to neglect to mention the model numbers, and the size of the cache, which can boost performance.
Although they're mostly regarded as a commodity item, a little more research could give many users the benefits of recent advances in storage technology.
We've been recommending Western Digital drives for some time now, because we've found them particularly robust and innovative, and because the local distributor, Westan, provides good service, and a good deal of information through its Web site.
The Green Power technology in Western Digital's enterprise-level RE2 drives, which reduces power consumption by about 40 per cent, has recently been extended to some of their desktop models, which carry the GP designation, rather than the KS (16MB cache) and JS (8MB) versions of the SATA (Serial ATA) models which high-volume retailers tend to stock.
Its AV drives are designed to withstand the higher temperatures generated by always-on streaming digital audio/video environments such as media centres, PVRs (Personal Video Recorders) and DVRs (Digital Video Recorders).
If you're looking for that particular combination of Green Power with an AV drive in a 16MB cache/500GB configuration, you need to specify the model number WD5000AVCS. Precision is essential, because the WD5000AVJS, for example, doesn't have Green Power, and only has an 8MB cache.
We'll stick with a 320GB Western Digital SATA drive (16MB cache) at $95 for our workhorse, but depending on your usage, you might choose a different version, and you're likely to have to source it through Westan.
We've been a little more generous than usual with the graphics card, this time choosing the 512MB version of the NVIDIA 8600GT card from Gigabyte, which uses "Silent Pipe" cooling technology, for $119.
You can pay a lot more to get better video performance for gaming, but the PC is rapidly losing its appeal as a gaming platform, so you might be better off putting the extra into a good console.
An Asus SATA DVD-RW drive for $39, Logitech mouse/keyboard for $75 and a 20-inch Philips 200WS8FB LCD screen for $249 looks like good value, completes the package, with the exception of a case and power supply.
This quarter we've decided to specify a more rugged power supply in the Cooler Master Extreme ($69), and the same company's case at $109, which brings the total to $942. If you add the screen, it's $1191.
Components:

  • CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8200 $239

  • Motherboard: Gigabyte EP35-DS3 $135

  • RAM: 2GB Kingston $65

  • HDD: Western Digital 320Gb (16MB) SATAII $95

  • VGA 512Mb 8600GT Gigabyte $116

  • LCD: Philips 200WS8FB $249
  • Optical: ASUS 2014B1T 20x SATA DVD-RW $39

  • Mouse/keyboard Logitech $75

  • Case: Cooler Master CM690 $109

  • PSU: Cooler Master Extreme 500w $69

Posted by cw at March 7, 2008 12:46 PM

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Good rig Charles I haven't been following the Intel 8xxx closely.Good call on a more robust PSU One young friend keeps killing his PSU by normal use even under warranty. A replacement takes time so his Dad buys another.

I prefer Seagate or Maxtor because you get the chance to download the cut-down re-branded Acronis Imager

Posted by: Ananda Sim at March 10, 2008 11:44 PM

"20-inch Philips 200WS8FB LCD screen for $249" - True, but where? The same edition of GG seems to have it at around $288/9 see pages 5 and 10.

The other question is whether my Macbook (Core Duo, 1 gb ram) can run it for business uses?

Big fan of Bleeding Edge, best newspaper computing column, taken over many years

Posted by: Peter R at March 12, 2008 11:48 PM

When I was doing the research, MSY was about to stock that particular monitor at that price - which was pretty hard to resist, given the fact that it is HDCP-capable and has a three-year warranty. While you can find monitors at around the same price range that have slightly better contrast, its brightness level is very good. Unfortunately prices can be a week-to-week proposition. Places like MSY can clear stock very quickly. MSY's price today, I think, is $255.

If I were buying a screen for myself, I'd probably go for the ASUS V222WU, but it's around $327 - which I think is excellent value for a quality 22-inch monitor.

To decide whether an LCD will work with your laptop, you first need to establish the screen's native resolution. If you run it at anything less than that, you'll get blurred or indistinct text.

In the case of the Philips, it's 1650x1050. Your laptop manual should tell you what resolution it can handle for an external monitor.

Hope this helps, but you'll get a much better range of opinion if you register (free) and post your questions in the Forum area.

Posted by: cw at March 13, 2008 09:06 AM

Hi Charles. I always look to your guide before getting a new PC and this time is no different. I am considering though, making some upgrades to your recommendation, and am wondering if they will have much of an overall perfomance increase, or whether it's not worth the extra cost. Specifically, I'm thinking of getting 4GB of RAM, and going for the E8400 CPU- (or perhaps even quad core). You also mention the DS3P motherboard as having extra features, in what way can these benefit?

Love your column Charles, and any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Posted by: Alister at April 8, 2008 04:59 PM

I want to question the recommendation of using Western Digital hard drives, not because I differ from what has been said about their quality, but because WD has taken active measures to prevent people from using p2p file sharing from WD drives, whether those files are copyrighted or not. See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7136069.stm
Since many people do share files, and there are many legitimate files that can be shared, people may not want to pay money for hardware that will prevent them from doing so.

Posted by: Bright Eyes at April 11, 2008 05:09 AM

I mentioned this in the piece I did on the WD My Book World Edition. It's not the hardware, it's the software they offer on their networked devices. You'd be crazy to use it, but you don't need to.

Posted by: cw at April 11, 2008 08:45 AM

I just finished putting together the March Workhorse.
Only the Box
I used a Coolmaster Elite / 420W
A smaller Seagate SATA 160G
All else same.

The e8200 CPL refused to sell but got one at
Landmark computers Box Hill

This rig is FAST ...

I now overclock the 2.66G to 3.12G (8 X 390) FSB
at default core volts.
Very stable at the speed

Posted by: John Smith at April 16, 2008 10:05 AM

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